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TOPIC: Looking to the future
#25
Re:Looking to the future 1 Year, 3 Months ago Karma: 21
That is funny. Reminds me of the creationist, Kent Hovind and his $250,000 reward to anyone who can prove evolution. It's nice to know that there is a website out there that is inadvertently helping promote the movement. I agree, if only more people would wake up to the fact that they are a slave to the monetary system the world would change dramatically. Too many people just blindly follow as if there is no alternative.
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#48
Re:Looking to the future 1 Year, 1 Month ago Karma: 4
I'm glad to see there is a movement chapter for West Virginia. I wasn't expecting anything around here. I pass around my Zeitgeist DVDs to whomever decides to take a look. They usually give them back with a different perspective on our current development as a society.

I have a feeling that the Zeitgeist Movement may have difficulties in this state. The major problem is coal. Coal provides a large number of jobs and profit for the state. This will make it harder for us to move to green energy sources, as the mass media will move against an alternative energy resource in an area where the current resource is providing so many jobs.

This is only made worse by West Virginia's conservative and patriotic reputation. Many believe that if we keep things the way they are, we can be "recession proof" without really taking into consideration how obsolete the current practices are. It doesn't help that the political machine makes the public think that a fallout of bad credit is what caused all of this; when really it's the result of a faulty money system.

I cannot help but to see a similarity between the actions of coal companies in the past and our actual money system. At one point, employees of coal companies were not even given actual money - but company credits, which they would use to pay for their company owned homes and to purchase food at a company owned store. The families were basically stuck in a private debt system, which they would likely never escape(with any assets, anyway). Relate that to how our money system works.

That might be a key to getting this state to come around. Although coal is probably the biggest issue, it could provide us with the best example against the money system.
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#52
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I can't wait to see the movement grow in our state. The Zeitgeist films and the ideas the Venus Project proposes as an alternative to what we have now and what we could be in the future gives me hope.

Hey Lee, nice site, great programming..... I agree with you about the movement. It is all I have left after the confirmations of my realizations. I say confirmations, because I have spent my entire life thinking the way Zeitgeist Part One said it "really was." Then when the Addendum came out and explained the fractional banking and then what I call Part III (training overview film) spelled out the freedom based in a non-monetary, resource-based economy, well, it pumped life back into me. I was absolutely hopeless until The Addendum came out though. I had worked my butt off for Ron Paul only to realize he was no different, just a different role to play. Religion and politics.....LMAO....has WV by the curly-q's. Everyone and everywhere else too.

Where you unfortunate enough to attend the Super Tuesday Republican Convention in 2008? If so, you have to know exactly what I mean.

Anyway, congratulations for having such a wonderful site and if I can help I will. I spend my days informing people of the movement as it is. The truth is, at first they laugh and then it sinks in. I have yet to actually show the material (the films) to anyone who has not agreed with the flaws in the current system. None can quite grasp how things could be free, but it has never even crossed my mind that everything could not be freely available to everyone. It only makes sense that we would work together to better ourselves. I think that in our lifetimes, I am 47, we will see some sort of this push to uniform sharing in harmony with freedoms beyond what we have now.

The information is just too strong for people to deny forever. I am focusing my efforts on highly intelligent people. It is just too overwhelming to even try to explain a resource-based economy to the average Joe. Nothing mean spirited intended in that comment, but that is the truth.

My last convert is a high ranking manager in a huge company who admitted to me privately that he completely agreed with the philosophy and that he would press forward when the opportunity presents itself to implement any form of the movement into the workplace he is in charge of administering. While that may sound weak, it truly is not. This guy is in control of at least 100 people who are in control of hundreds below them. I feel good about that one.

If you wonder how I can focus so much time on the movement without even knowing you existed until tonight, it is simply because I am focused on what I can do. I gave up on expecting help from anyone in any respect. I just do whatever I am able to give hope for something better than the required murderous rampages our governments force us into to sustain an unsustainable economic model. It's that simple.

Anyway, again, thank you for your efforts. Every time I see another one of us (you have rounded up quite a few) I feel stronger and less alone. We have a difficult task ahead of us and you are really doing a great job. I hope we become great friends.

Sincerely,
Bill Sisemore

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#53
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Thanks Bill. It's great to see the site is helping bring us, the members of the movement here in West Virginia together. You are correct in saying it's no small task we have. Nice to hear about people helping educate others about the movement. Unfortunately you are very correct about not being able to talk to just anyone about the films and Venus Project. Religion and politics have "brain washed" way too many people in our great state. It's very difficult to speak about change to anyone who holds on to old ideologies. I'm not saying these people can not or will not ever understand, it's just the time it would take would be more efficiently spent talking to someone more open minded. The movement needs numbers right now so the efficiency of the communication teams is very important.

Where you unfortunate enough to attend the Super Tuesday Republican Convention in 2008? If so, you have to know exactly what I mean.

No. I can gladly say I didn't attend. I did however vote for Mr. Paul in the primaries. I had high hopes as I'm sure many did. It wasn't until I seen Z2 that I understood completely how much politics was a game where the highest bidder wins. I can say with the utmost certainty that I'll never vote again.

Anyway,congratulations for having such a wonderful site and if I can help I will.
First off I would like to thank you for all the work you have done and are doing now. I would like to thank everyone who is helping the movement grow. I would be more than happy to have more help here on the site. Actually, I had signed on today to post a topic about this. We could use forum moderators and as the site grows, additional administrators and article editors. Peter has mentioned on several broadcast that we need more speakers. I believe we should be actively searching for people who could give talks and hopefully tour some of the state. Like mentioned before, it's no small task. It's up to us to accelerate the movement here in our state.
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#62
Re:Looking to the future 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 0
I'm just glad that there are people like this in West Virginia. I've spent most of my life IN West Union, one of the most back-water places here, and I've talked to a lot of people that just seem... way behind the times and not quite using their full brain.

So, thank you guys for not being the close-minded, stereotypical rednecks and Christians and self-indulgent slobs that I've been exposed to for quite some time now.
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Re:Looking to the future 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 0
I saw the first film shortly after it was released, but my opinions were not shaped by the movie itself. since i was educated enough to reason I've known that some sort of change was needed. I've known that our life at this time was corrupt and irrelevant. The film opened my mind to the facts that are so masked and safe-guarded by society, that I suspected but not fully understood, thus giving a backbone to my theories, changing my outlook indefinitly
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